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Lil Early To Be Settin Up That Nativity Kvetch, Ain't It?
Published on October 22, 2005 By kingbee In Politics

bad enuff, we as a society hafta endure a rapidly and constantly expanding sacred holiday gift-buying season (not so long ago, no respectable enterprise woulda crassed the line by transforming its facility into a red-green-and-tinseled gwb's smirk vision of yuletide one minute before 12:00:01 the day after thanksgiving; this year, i'd not be surprised to find santa, reindeer and elf suits being stealthed in as halloween costumes) without being subjected to a buncha pre-december pissing, moaning, unrestrained rumor mongering and outraged wailing about the de-christmasization of the nation. 

i dunno exactly when this year's 'they've damn near banned xmas everywhere when i wasnt looking' crusade began, but over the past two days, i've seen a pair of  impassioned, if not terribly well-conceived condemnations of those foolish enuff to put themselves on front street by suggesting distribution of the holy candycane--a symbol that dates back to the time when jesus' own shepherd's crook was transformed into a delicious confection on that cold night in bethlehem into which he was born--by an 'ends excuse means'  holy witness in a public school classroom seems unlikely to be legal, sensible or even the christian thing to do.   

yall would accrue a great deal more credibility if you were equally as protective (or even sorta close) of the celebration of the most important day on the christian calendar--the resurection--as you are about the whole toybag fulla pagan winter solstice traditions combined with fanciful inanities, the most ancient of which possibly dates  alllllllll the way back to the last golden era (like 1850 years after christ beamed himself up.)

either i missed the big easter fatwa against the heathens who eternally labor day-in, day-out trying to roll the stone back before jesus can fully triumph over death, or yall are bettin the farm (not to mention puttin all your coal in one stocking) hoping nobody else will notice your lack of concern about easter and realize it  exposes the deliberate false witness you bear with your hysterical claims about the purported attack on xmas.  


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on Oct 22, 2005
~~But just for the record, in case I missed a mention of it somewhere on here, the "most imporant day on the Christian calendar" isn't Christmas----it's Easter.~~

I agree. Christmas, like others said, kinda goes beyond religion now, and is seen as a holiday for family togetherness, generosity, and peace (although, as a Catholic, I do make it a point to remind myself that this is a celebration of Jesus' birth...I do tend to get caught up in all the commercialism sometimes).

btw, ever heard of Big Lots, the bargain store? It's notorious for pushing holidays months ahead of time...it had Christmas stuff up in late September already, and had the Hallowwen/Fall thing going soon after 4th of July.
on Oct 23, 2005
Hint: Christmas is for all mankind, Christians and non as well. It is truly a celebration of life (for all even atheists).


But just for the record, in case I missed a mention of it somewhere on here, the "most imporant day on the Christian calendar" isn't Christmas----it's Easter. After all, everyone is born, but only One of us ever came back after three days dead


Yea, I kind of told him that as well. Actually, I like Christmas being for everyman, regardless of belief. Nice to have one time of the year where "Peace on Earth, Goodwill to all men" means something.


apparently you both overlooked the entire third paragraph beginning with:

yall would accrue a great deal more credibility if you were equally as protective (or even sorta close) of the celebration of the most important day on the christian calendar--the resurection--as you are about the whole toybag fulla pagan winter solstice traditions

but i'm glad yall agree with me.

with that outta the way, perhaps you can explain how it is the defenders of public religiosity--already gearing up for the good fight this year--have made christmas their posterchild and don't seem to give a damn about how easter being trivialized, perverted and commercialized from all sides.
on Oct 23, 2005
Perhaps you should seperate the childish symbols from the adult ones?


Actually, my ilk has abandoned "Easter" (purportedly named after the fertility deity Ishtar) for "Resurrection Sunday."


as usual, gene is dead on here. christianity coopted ancient fertility and rebirth festivals and christian merchants have been rakin in the rewards ever since.
on Oct 23, 2005
KMart here in town already has Christmas trees and other items on display right next to their Halloween stuff in their Seasonal area.


obviously merchants will do whatever they can to make a few bucks. kicking off christmas marketing before the end of dst in the us is not only unseemly...it's unseasonable.

not nearly as telling, however, as is kicking off the pre-christmas complaining-about-perceived-attacks-on-christmas (and by extension all christianity) season in mid-october.

first of all, it's childishly ridiculous to start whining in anticipation. more importantly, it erodes credibility. we have a name for those who believe themselves under constant attack even when they aren't. paranoiacs, by definition, misperceive the world. clearly those who are already moaning about attacks on holiday decorations yet to be hung and carols yet to be sung have forgotten what happens to the boy who cried 'wolf'.
on Oct 23, 2005
btw, ever heard of Big Lots, the bargain store? It's notorious for pushing holidays months ahead of time...it had Christmas stuff up in late September already, and had the Hallowwen/Fall thing going soon after 4th of July.


makes sense for them cuz their business is built on buying up crap that didn't sell last year. so last year's easter stuff is on its way to them in june, and where better to store it than on their shelves where someone else can buy it from them.

maybe someone should start a forum for the prematurely persecuted, a place where they could endlessly rehash past insults (real or imagined) and call it something like 'big babies' or 'big slights'.
on Oct 23, 2005
Although....looks like you've got some competition now!


either that or yall are gonna have to run westward.
on Oct 25, 2005
Hey, I make one heckuva pagan winter solstice primerib!

I don't know what I think about this article yet, but I wanted to stop in and say hello.
on Oct 26, 2005
don't see how enjoying the tradition of gift-giving, eating Christmas cookies, and enjoying music from my childhood makes me a hypocrite? I celebrate things like summer solstice, and I am not a Wiccan, and I might even be known to take part in Yom Kippur, too, and I am not a Jew.


Good on ya LW.

Very funny article KB.
on Oct 26, 2005
#11 by Rightwinger
Saturday, October 22, 2005


Haha, I love this reply RW and quite true too!

I don't know, none of the holidays seem to be sacred anymore. These retailers just don't seem to care. I guess it's all about the bucks or being ahead of the competition!

Now if Walmart or Kmart were to have Christmas decorations all year round...why that would just be...there's no word to describe it except it would spoil Christmas!
on Oct 26, 2005
I went to look for some fake blood for Xavier's Halloween zombie costume today


FYI...I got the fake blood...and not a moment too soon. Friday's costume day at school and he needs to put the fear of zombies into some little Kindergarteners. Hehe.
on Oct 26, 2005
christian merchants have been rakin in the rewards ever since.


So have Jewish merchants. My dad always said "Christmas is for kids and Jews."

Haha, I love this reply RW and quite true too!
--foreverserenity

Thanks much.



I don't know, none of the holidays seem to be sacred anymore. These retailers just don't seem to care.
---foreverserenity

Like anything lse, it's all in what you make of it. Like Charlie Brown said---"This commercial dog isn't going to ruin MY Christmas!" And like Charlie Brown, I doggedly (pun intended) ignore the commercialized aspects (which is just about all of them) of Christmas and try to enjoy the holiday for what it is, or rather, is supposed to be.


Now if Walmart or Kmart were to have Christmas decorations all year round...why that would just be...there's no word to describe it except it would spoil Christmas!
--foreverserenity

I agree completely.


FYI...I got the fake blood...and not a moment too soon. Friday's costume day at school and he needs to put the fear of zombies into some little Kindergarteners. Hehe.
--TexW

"They're coming to get you, Barbara! Look! There's one of them now!"
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