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Who Ya Gonna Believe? GWB Or Them Lyin Ears Of Yours?
Published on February 24, 2005 By kingbee In Current Events

if former friend doug wead had taped george w. bush stopping short of candidly admitting he never used drugs, it would be a much bigger story.  no matter how straightforward and morally valued his supporters may believe him to be, if they wouldn't happily sell the family cow for some magic beans, they either have enough magic beans already or they simply aren't that naive.
  
it's not that he exhibits any of the so-called telltale stoner symptoms, although his public speaking style does seem  to have been more influenced by tommy chongs  'dave's not here' oration than any other model of elocution (ironicaly, tommy has only 5 months to go before he's off probation--not for smoking dope but for  “glamorizing the illegal distribution and use of marijuana”  in such a way as to  “trivialize law-enforcement efforts to combat drug trafficking and use.”  according to the john ashcroft proxy who prosecuted chong). 
 
just so yall don't get the wrong idea here, i not only have no problem with the future president's previous drug use--whether or not he just smoked some pot or used cocaine  (his vehement insistence to wead that he hasn't denied doing blow leads me to believe he did).  if anything, i'm convinced he quit using dope too soon for anyones benefit, especially his own. 
 
although this may eventually change, since the story broke, sympathy seems to be  the most prevalent  reaction to the whole sordid story of bush's betrayal by doug wead (the religious right's answer to dr phil).  totally undeserved sympathy, too, in my opinion.  not because i don't think it was a rotten thing for wead to have done, but because if you're gonna surround yourself with snakes, you don't deserve a lotta consolation when you wind up snakebit.  
 
despite his no longer being with us, goldwater's innate wisdom continues to shine on in his absence.  when good ol doug wead ran for congress in 1992--loudly proclaiming himself one of barry's heirs-- goldwater not only refused to support him, but actually endorsed wead's democrat opponent. 
 
(karl rove is another one, but that's no big secret).

anyway the really deplorable thing about all this--once again in my opinion--is how badly moral values have been devalued by those who attribute them to themselves while lying into the camera--in collusion with those who accept those lies at face value.  shining it on by claiming to expect lies from politicians leads to a place where antispyware software developers intentionally permit some scumware to thrive on your computer, gay escort entrepreneurs impersonate journalists as well as females and someone in the whitehouse feels comfortable in committing treason by publicly outing a cia agent, betting on the public's refusal to say shit while gulping it down.


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on Feb 24, 2005
This is big news in Europe. Not here in North America though. As usual the media ignores and selectively informs it's public.


No, it's not like they pay any of the media off to write positive articles about them.
on Feb 24, 2005
My point is not his use of drugs but his total lack of achievements. He is an example of how anyone in America can be president so long as you have the right father.


Your point is, you hate Bush, plain and simple. Just as the Grand Wizard of the KKK hates Black People, Hitler hated Jews and I hate peas.

I just wonder, is there anything else to you, other than a basic hatred for Bush?
on Feb 24, 2005
I just wonder, is there anything else to you, other than a basic hatred for Bush?


When hating a politician can you really truly hate the man or the special interests (i.e. lobbyists) that govern his policy?
on Feb 24, 2005
I do hate Bush. I know that the results of the policies he is following are not resolving the issues that face us. He is not helping bring our nation together but pushing us apart. His domestic policy is not creating jobs to the extent needed for our growing population. The deficit is totally out of control and he has no plan to correct that situation. The war in Iraq has not made us safer but has created a terrorist operation in Iraq where none existed before we invaded. The issue is not Bush the person but the solutions that he has employed and their almost total lack of solving the problems facing us.
on Feb 24, 2005
the revelation was made by a guy named 'doug wead'


proof positive that you can hardly make up stuff more bizarre than real life. the man literally embodies the dark side of being hooked on phonix.
on Feb 24, 2005

..And we have women who went on tape saying that Clinton had raped them. I somehow doubt Kingbee was very concerned about that..

on Feb 24, 2005

Col Gene writes:

I do hate Bush.

And this is why you guys keep losing. No one wants to be on teh side full of haters. I didn't agree with many of Clinton's policies but I never hated him. In fact, I can't really think of any politician (American anyway) that I would use the word "hate".  But liberals seem to really hate Bush. They say so all the time.  No one wants to associate with people that come across as unbalanced.

on Feb 24, 2005
just couldn't get over the fact that the revelation was made by a guy named 'doug wead'


I'll go ya one better, mugz. Our local DA was busted for drug use and weapons violation (though he pleaded, and got all the drug charges dropped...must be nice to be DA, huh?). His name? Rick ROACH.
on Feb 24, 2005
the whole "I didn't inhale" thing with Prs. Clinton... YAWN!!!

Just as I'm sure Kerry wasn't into the whole "Peace, Love, Dope" scene with nothing but Peace and Love on his mind! ;~D


anyone who was in his or her teens between 1965-75 who denies smoking dope doesnt belong in public life or elected office. it's either an out-and-out lie and voters should be outraged the politician in question has so little regard for their intelligence and/or thinks them so easily conned.

or it's true and therefore indicates the type of disconnection from real life attributed to the former president bush when he appeared to be totally unfamiliar with supermarket scanning technology.

if ya look at it in another context, any unmarried presidential candidate claiming to be a virgin should establish a residence in the vatican city cuz he or she is running for the wrong office in our district.
on Feb 24, 2005
There's nothing there that speaks of him using drugs now. This is him not knowing he was being taped:


no one is suggesting he's using drugs now (while i wouldnt go as far as bocephus in claiming all our rowdy friends have settled down, most of em certainly have).

while i have a number of problems with the bush presidency, the thing i find most aggravating about him is what seems to me an outrageous arrogance where truth and responsiblity are concerned. attempting to justify himself by positing the question "Do you want your little kid, to say, 'Hey daddy, President Bush tried marijuana; I think I will?'" is a typical example. in fact, its a lot more likely a little kid is gonna conclude if it's okay for the president to blur the truth. everyone else around him seems to do it too, so why shouldnt i?

as i tried to point out, this really is a non-story. even the most gung-ho bushites arent in shock or even slightly surprised.

as far as bush's refusal to fire people solely because they are gay, i don't see how he could have done otherwise without violating the law and sustaining some otherwise avoidable damage. i'm willing to take it at face value however and consider it a positive for which he deserves credit.

we must have an entirely different set of information sources because that part of the tape was included in just about--if not all--the coverage ive seen, heard and read.
on Feb 24, 2005
..And we have women who went on tape saying that Clinton had raped them. I somehow doubt Kingbee was very concerned about that


even the darkest cloud is lined, however sparingly, with silver. one of the best proofs of that cliche is kenneth starr. if there was anything close to flammable amidst all the smoke of those accusations, i'm sure ken woulda come bounding outta the starr chamber waving indictments.

i have six sisters, two of whom have been raped and i'm close to a half-dozen women who are victims of rapists. if there's something you feel credible which starr somehow managed to miss, whip it on me. i've no investment in clinton that blinds me to his faults--and no reason whatsoever to ignore a crime of that magnitude...but i've yet to see an allegation that clinton engaged in anything but mutual seduction.

in any event, wead's tape doesnt contain anyone other than bush suggesting he himself has been less than forthright about his own drug use.
on Feb 24, 2005
I omitted the word "not" in post #19. I DO NOT hate Bush! As I have said many times before, the problem is the results are just as I have said in #19. He is not resolving our problems at home or abroad.
on Feb 24, 2005
Something tells me that Bush smoking weed in the past and not being proud of it, in fact, going so far as not to comment on it so he won't influence children into drugs shows some true care. Meanwhile, Kerry, who was loved by the people who actually care what Bush smoked decades ago, committed atrocities in Vietnam, and embraced his past, and he won their support for it.
So, in other words, smoke pot, turn a new leaf, and not talk about your past lest you influence children: EVIL!
Kill Vietnamese people and do things you aren't supposed to do, and speak of that time as honorable: MORAL!
Unless the left is saying that they aren't moral either, in which case, they should take their plank out of their eye before they worry about our splinter.
on Feb 25, 2005
What took place 35 years ago is not the most important issue. What is moral about cutting help for the poor to heat their homes and pay for their health care? What is moral about cutting funding to our Vets for the prescription drugs? What is right about driving this country into debt so our children are forced to pay for our excesses?

Bush should read his Bible about what Christ had to say about helping the poor and how hard it was for a rich man to receive eternal life. Morality is a lot more than Gays and abortion!
on Feb 25, 2005
Like most of us didn't at least try smoking weed in our youth.

I don't see this as a big issue. The one thing i took from these tapes is that dubya is human. He was adamant about kids not following in his footsteps (without actually admitting to firing up the fattie).

I think it's the most human thing he has said in a long time.

Hey Buu? the election was in november...You can put the Kerry stick away.
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