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If It's Good Enough For Them, It Should Be Good Enough For US
Published on February 4, 2005 By kingbee In Politics

during a nightline televised 'town hall meeting' just before the iraqi election, senator george allen (r) va reasserted a proposition he's been advocating since april, 2004 after being inspired by an ny times op-ed piece suggesting iraqi oil profits be divided amongst and distributed to every resident-citizen of iraq.  although no specific plan has been developed, the idea would use the alaska permanent fund as a rough model.  after using the original contract payment to improve the infrastructure and schools of the state, the people of alaska voted to invest a permanently retained portion of their oil revenues and annually disburse royalty income to all alaskan citizens.  in 2002, every man, woman and child in alaska received a check for nearly $2000.00.

as head of the provisional coalition government, paul bremer publicly indicated his support for allen's proposal, as have several other republican senators.  after all, this is the ownership administration.  how better to demonstrate their commitment to that principle than helping the citizens of iraq to assert collective ownership of their nation's considerable oil resources?  how better to acknowledge iraqis' ownership status than by providing a way for each to receive a share of revenue produced as a benefit of what they own?

anything that's good enough for iraq is surely good enough for us as well.  america may not have as much oil as iraq and what there is may not be as easily accessible, but our land has plenty of other wealth, much of which has, so far, enriched relatively few of us directly.  the agencies responsible for administrating all publicly owned land--and the forests, water and minerals on and under it--have typically been far too generous in their negotiations with the industries to which they offer leaseholds.  at the same time, they've been far too lax in enforcing compliance.  citizens ignore all but the most egregious malfeasance because we do not generally possess a sense of ownership.  it's understandable.  we wont  really 'own' our resources until we receive a distribution of the income they produce.

a number of analysts have concluded  our social security system's potential shortfalls can be prevented for a fraction of the cost of revamping the program.  all that's required is relatvely modest recapitalization. the existing alaska method points to viable means, method and source of the needed funds.

in times past, one would expect this suggestion to be received with nothing less than total outrage by today's  proponents of the oil ownership concept for iraq.  obviously times change and so do attitudes.  what was once abhored as collective  nationalization is now 'ownership' --at least in iraq.   given a choice between that type of ownership and the expensive and risky sort of phantom ownership we're being offered as a social security solution, i say we should choose the former.  


Comments
on Feb 05, 2005
America is the #3 oil producer in the world.

on Feb 05, 2005

America is the #3 oil producer in the world


i was referring to resources but the more oil we produce, the more each of us would collect.   aint seen you around much....if youve been away, welcome back

on Feb 05, 2005
this is truly a viable alternative to the SS problem. In giving out the options to the American public, why isn't this even being considered?
on Feb 05, 2005

In giving out the options to the American public, why isn't this even being considered?


with the utmost humility, i gotta cite matt 13:57

on Feb 05, 2005
"it's understandable. we wont really 'own' our resources until we receive a distribution of the income they produce."

But we do own it, and use it. In Iraq, the people never saw any of the oil money. So, no one but the absent Hussein regime and connected flunkies are harmed if the money is re-distributed to the people who should have been reaping more benefits already.

Unfortunately, people in the US are ALREADY reaping the benefits of our natural resources. I'm not flying blind here, I have experience in areas where both the mining and lumber industry utilize public land. It isn't corporate fat-cats that rely most on this relationship, it is the local people who work in these industries.

If you make it more expensive for them to utilize these lands, the wealthy will just invest in something else, and leave the often poverty-striken areas and take their jobs with them. Worse, you aren't spreading the damage over ALL the nation's wealthy, you are singling out particular industries.

If the profit is passed on to the consumer, then gas, and lumber, and other resources are more expensive. This would harm numerous industries, housing in the case of lumber, and pretty much everything in terms of oil.

I'm not seeing how the situation in IRaq and here are interchangable...

on Feb 05, 2005
If the profit is passed on to the consumer, then gas, and lumber, and other resources are more expensive.
Oh, yeah, like it doesn't happen now, eh?
in times past, one would expect this suggestion to be received with nothing less than total outrage by today's proponents of the oil ownership concept for iraq. obviously times change and so do attitudes. what was once abhored as collective nationalization is now 'ownership' --at least in iraq. given a choice between that type of ownership and the expensive and risky sort of phantom ownership we're being offered as a social security solution, i say we should choose the former.
Bravo!
on Feb 05, 2005
" Oh, yeah, like it doesn't happen now, eh?"

Yep, but making it worse isn't making it better. Profit is law. Period. If you make an industry less profitable, people will not undertake it. The jobs you would lose in this case are irreplacable in most rural areas.

This is my main gripe with "Fix it and forget it" Liberalism. When you guys think "oil", or "lumber", you must picture fat cats in overstuffed chairs smoking cigars. When I hear those terms, I picture the people I used to watch toiling away in those industries, damn happy to have jobs in areas where jobs were scarce.

When you strike at employers and investors, you are also attacking their employees and those who rely on their investment. That never seems to concern people bent on sticking it to the rich, though.

on Feb 05, 2005

Unfortunately, people in the US are ALREADY reaping the benefits of our natural resources

the people in alaska are benefitting much more than the rest of us.  i'll admit that i havent looked hard to find any serious negatives associated with the alaska permanent fund.  there should be a way to duplicate it on a national basis. ( i dont think theres any question the dept of the interior has--from the day theodore judah convinced the congress to help fund the transcontinental railroad--been pretty generous to developers.)

admittedly, it would be much more complicated to do it on a national basis in the us than starting at the beginning as they didn in alaska or as part of a total national revamping in iraq.  
 

on Feb 05, 2005

When you strike at employers and investors, you are also attacking their employees and those who rely on their investment.

investors and operators in alaska dont seem to be complaining.  i havent had time to check but im guessing the fund hasnt affected the number of oilfield jobs or the premium wages they pay.  oil companies are still gonna want to get a piece of the iraqi oil action.   mexico would be a lot better place for the majority of its citizens if it had used the alaska model. 

on Feb 05, 2005

Bravo!


im not sure how the administration has worked itself around to the point of considering this concept considering they see it as a threat in venezuela but....